Now to many this will shock you, Paul established communion with wine and John added many parts that say we must drink the blood of Christ. Many of the Christian ideologies at present are based around this. When we look at what the bible said about drinking and what Christ truly said, it is easier to see why this is wrong.
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This is the way it is translated, as from what John and Paul had said this would make logical sense. Yet within the context of the bible this would make Yeshua a deceiver, as the bible is clearly against drinking and especially eating or drinking blood.
This is what it says in Greek, with a very ruff translation taken from the Strong's dictionary:
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So with odd bits added by me, to make it make more sense in the translation to English, this is what it comes out as:
I ask of you that you don't drink of, from the fruit of the vine, until the day in which that, we together drink with you, new in the kingdom of the father of mine.
This could be done in any of the books Mathew, Mark and Luke and it comes out the same he was saying not to drink, as he had said earlier, and the bible clearly states.
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So what else confirms this that we are not to drink of the vine, as if it is the blood of Christ?
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If we check what this means within the context of the bible.
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Now if Christ told us that we should keep the laws of Moses, how can we if we drink his blood, so either Christ was daft which I seriously doubt, or John made up a lot of what is in his books.
Yet as it is written:
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This is almost prophecy of what occurred later, yet not set out by Christ, yet the Pharisee by both John and Paul. How come they could have been so convinced of something that defies the bible it's self, is beyond me. Yet this then fulfills the rest of the prophecies concerning Christ.
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In the Greek it doesn't include "of" so therefore it may mean the blood of Yeshua, which would make logical sense, as Babylon has spread that we drink the blood as a ritual.
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So what were the disciples doing after his death to remember him by?
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So logical as Christ had shown, they broke bread the same as it had been since the days of old, and Christ had shown through out his ministry by sharing bread among the multitude. Not as Paul later stated as this break the Law of Moses as we are told not to drink blood.
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Mat 26:29 But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on, until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom.
This is the way it is translated, as from what John and Paul had said this would make logical sense. Yet within the context of the bible this would make Yeshua a deceiver, as the bible is clearly against drinking and especially eating or drinking blood.
This is what it says in Greek, with a very ruff translation taken from the Strong's dictionary:
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Mat 26:29 λεγω (I ask) δε (of) υμιν (you) οτι (that) ου (never) μη (but) πιω (drink) απ (from) αρτι (now) εκ (until) τουτου (that) του (of) γεννηματος (fruit) της (the) αμπελου (vine) εως (until) της (the) ημερας (day) εκεινης (in which) οταν (that) αυτο (together) πινω (drink) μεθ (with) υμων (you) καινον (new) εν (in) τη (the) βασιλεια (kingdom) του (the) πατρος (father) μου (mine)
So with odd bits added by me, to make it make more sense in the translation to English, this is what it comes out as:
I ask of you that you don't drink of, from the fruit of the vine, until the day in which that, we together drink with you, new in the kingdom of the father of mine.
This could be done in any of the books Mathew, Mark and Luke and it comes out the same he was saying not to drink, as he had said earlier, and the bible clearly states.
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Mat 10:42 and whoever shall give to one of these little ones a cup of cold water to drink, only in the name of a disciple, truly I say to you, He shall in no way lose his reward.
So what else confirms this that we are not to drink of the vine, as if it is the blood of Christ?
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Rev 16:6 since they have poured out the blood of the saints and prophets; and you gave them blood to drink, for they were deserving.
If we check what this means within the context of the bible.
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Gen 9:4 but you shall not eat of flesh with the life in it, or the blood of it.
Lev 3:17 It shall be a statute forever for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that you eat neither fat nor blood.
Lev 7:26-27 and you shall not eat any blood, of fowl or of beast, in any of your dwellings. (27) Any soul who eats any blood, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.
Lev 17:10-14 And any man of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that are staying among you, who eats any blood, I will set My face against that soul who eats blood, and will cut him off from among his people. (11) For the life of the flesh is in the blood. And I have given it to you on the altar to make an atonement for your souls. For it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul. (12) Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that is staying among you eat blood. (13) And any man of the sons of Israel, or of the strangers that are staying among you, who hunts game, beast or fowl, that may be eaten, he shall even pour out its blood and cover it with dust. (14) For it is the life of all flesh. Its blood is for the life of it. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any flesh. For the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.
Deut 12:23 only be sure that you do not eat the blood. For the blood is the life. And you may not eat the life with the flesh.
Now if Christ told us that we should keep the laws of Moses, how can we if we drink his blood, so either Christ was daft which I seriously doubt, or John made up a lot of what is in his books.
Yet as it is written:
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Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
Psalm 16:4 their sorrows shall be multiplied who run after another god. I will not pour out their drink offerings of blood; and I will not take their names on my lips.
This is almost prophecy of what occurred later, yet not set out by Christ, yet the Pharisee by both John and Paul. How come they could have been so convinced of something that defies the bible it's self, is beyond me. Yet this then fulfills the rest of the prophecies concerning Christ.
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Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyr(s of) Yeshua. And when I saw her, I marveled with a great marveling.
In the Greek it doesn't include "of" so therefore it may mean the blood of Yeshua, which would make logical sense, as Babylon has spread that we drink the blood as a ritual.
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Hab 2:12 Woe to him who builds a town with blood, and establishes a city by iniquity!
So what were the disciples doing after his death to remember him by?
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Act 2:46 and continuing with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they shared food with gladness and simplicity of heart,
Act 20:7 and on the first of the Sabbaths, the disciples having been assembled to break bread, being about to depart on the morrow, Paul reasoned to them. And he continued his speech until midnight.
So logical as Christ had shown, they broke bread the same as it had been since the days of old, and Christ had shown through out his ministry by sharing bread among the multitude. Not as Paul later stated as this break the Law of Moses as we are told not to drink blood.