Re: The origin of the universe

Posted by qOLOp on 1119390588

Good questions.
I believe I understand what you mean.
When you ask the question: "What caused it to exist?" You are asking for a reason "to be" but more important, a particular point in time. It is the same if you believe that the "big bang" caused the existence of the universe. What caused it to exist? How hydrogen and helium got together and exploded? who made them in motion? and more important, what existed before the explotion? and before those things and so on ...ad infinitum... The same holds true if you believe that a "supernatural being" created the universe. What caused it to exist? and before the existence of the universe? Some respond: There was nothing. Why it had to be something? If nothing was there, where was God? and If God was there, then "nothing" never existed... besides who created God? how He came into existence?

Why it is easy to say " God is eternal", meaning God has no beginning and no end. Always existed, but then it is so difficult to understand that matter has always existed as the law of conservation of energy affirms.

As far as thinking that existence has a reason or a utility is just a matter of perception. Animals are not catter for anything unless you find a meaning to it. A painter painting a picture can make the biggest mess, however; for some it will be called art. What I see whith my eyes are not what actually exist but a perception of it through my physical senses. An incomplete picture of what exist at a particular point in time, which will change as time passes by in interaction with other material entities. You call it symbiosis because you see differences betwen entities, I may call it " ..." because I see that something cannot exist by itself.. it is the same matter in different arrangement. This is the old Ying -Yang. You can perceive both polarities as opposites. I can perceive them as complementary, someone may say: " they are both, complementary and opposite at the same time".. but we know that THAT cannot be. You can only be one thing but no the other at the same time.... Like I said before, ALL depends on your stage of consciousness.
Mathematics is just a way to interpret the world around us, the physical world, which are limited by physical laws. Mathematics cannot go beyond that, it is very limited. Mathematics cannot understand what is beauty, for instance; however, we have experience it. It is about consciousness and to go beyond is about soul consciousness rather then body consciousness.
Thank you for such an interesting talk.